請問這位先生/太太/小姐是誰啊? 網路有這麼危險嗎? 實在不解,為什麼連轉貼也要匿名? 有必要保護自己保護到這種地步嗎? 我敢說,只要台灣人用保護自己的億萬分之一的精神和力氣來想一想別人或別的物種權益,這世界老早煥然一新.

再說,一個匿名者說自己很難過很傷心很痛苦,有什麼意義嗎? 重點是誰難過誰傷心誰痛苦.

當然,只要不是攻擊他人,匿名是各位的自由,我只是很不解:

1. 有這麼危險嗎?

2. 自己的安全或權益有這麼重要嗎?

3. 自己的安全或權益如果這麼重要,為什麼別人的安全或權益在我們的心目中卻往往如廢棄物一般絲毫不值得眷顧?

4. 更不用說保護自己保護到滴水不漏,但卻反而用這樣一種匿名方去去傷害他人之卑鄙齷齪了.

5. 人們(我指的就是台灣人或華人,因為其他人種沒有這問題)之強烈保護自己的一切保護到滴水不漏保護到好像很見不得人的心態,總讓我感到很不解而且覺得很卑鄙很沒出息,沒有做為一個人應有最起碼的格調.

上網逛到的

看完很傷心

ps:一些關於美軍在伊拉克的戰鬥影片,在這分享給大家...


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Apache Gunships Take Out 3 Armed Insurgents With 2 Hellfire Missiles In Iraq
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Apache Gunship Takes Out 2 Insurgents With A Hellfire Missile In Iraq
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9f0_1249561255




Apache Takes Out Insurgents With 30mm Compilation - Iraq
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Apache Gunship Takes Out 5 Armed Insurgents With 3 Hellfire Missiles In Iraq
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c1a_1252068233


Iraqi Army carrying an insurgent suicide head in Diala - Iraq - Warning: Extermely Graphic
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ef8_1193330308


Failed Suicide Operation in Sadr City
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Jihad Gone Wrong 2 Insurgents attack failed
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美軍跟伊拉克小孩玩足球的影片

US Soldier Playing Soccer With Iraqi Kids
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=817_1206829591

大約是90年代中期之前,台灣媒體經常造謠說謊或為特定政治勢力服務儼然是一種文宣機構的,主要就是華視中視台視三台及中國時報和聯合報民生報以及一些較不為人所知的報紙. 特別是這樣一些較不為人所知的報紙如青年戰士報,說謊造謠扭曲以及自我定位為特定政黨的搖尾巴報,更是赤裸裸而毫不掩飾.

過了九零年代中期,氣氛變了,綠色抬頭了,於是造謠扭曲搖尾巴整天搞族群意識進行黨國獵巫活動的主角也迅速從藍轉移到綠,竄出一批綠色愛台灣媒體如民視三立以及自由時報,特別是自由時報,更是領導主流.

如果你年齡太輕,很遺憾無法親身體驗昔日那些黨國媒體急先鋒如何為黨國服務如何挑撥族群如何扭曲造謠, 其實不用遺憾,打開三立或民視看看那些綠色名嘴就知道了,或是買一份自由時報更能讓你瞬間進入黨國時光隧道.

比方說,上百萬個台灣人住在中國或往來旅遊經商,哪天有兩個被歹徒砍了,自由時報頭版頭條就會寫著: "中國人殺台灣人!" 可是,台灣社會每天那麼多人被歹徒砍,難道這就是台灣人殺台灣人!?

所有媒體以及所有會寫字的人,都必然有著某種意識形態,除非是植物人,否則我們看世界必然帶著某種色彩,因此,意識形態本身並不是一個問題,有問題的是扭曲或造謠,更惡劣的當然就是這樣一種族群挑撥,只要是跟中國有關,就想盡辦法抹黑之,希望大家只要一想到或一看到大陸人就覺得他很骯髒,有傳染病,有SARS,整天隨地大小便,會害人,囂張沒文化等等,希望大家仇視之.

這就跟過去把台灣人看成次等人種一樣惡劣,在校內,講台語得罰站,身上掛個 "我沒有水準,我不愛國,我講台語" 的狗牌. 在校外,你講台語,女生從旁走過,總是會對你側目而視,不是看你很帥,是覺得你這個人好沒水準好齷齪.

任何戲劇,只要是操外省口音的,都是英挺美麗而且正直大方的男女主角,只要是講台灣國語或直接就講台語的,不是三八阿花就是智障低能出洋相或做奸犯科獐頭鼠目一副猥瑣模樣.

一個身心健康的人,當他承受過這樣那一些巨大的痛苦時,他不會希望別人也承受這樣那樣的一些痛苦;他的一切努力,並不是要把痛苦轉嫁到他人身上,否則他昔日所承受的一切痛苦悲劇都將失去意義.

同樣地,當我們付出那麼大的代價,追求著一種有關自由與憐憫的理想,把整個青春血淚都耗費了,回首前塵,飽受屈辱與誤解,從沒有享受過一天的好日子. 這樣一種追求,絕不是追求另一種卑鄙與迫害.

當我們提著頭顱飽受痛苦地向統治者及忠黨愛國的社會大眾說: "台灣人有主張台獨的自由",意思並不是說台灣人 "只有" 主張台獨的自由. 這怎麼會是一種自由? 如果我們只是要追求這樣一種東西,那它與過去台灣人 "只能" 有主張統一的自由有何不同? 豈不是一樣卑鄙可恨?!

印度是一個很窮的國家,但他們卻花費鉅額金錢發展武器,甚至發展核武. 印度人大概都忘記誰是甘地了. 甘地主張完全廢除軍事國防,他大概很難想像他所屬的國家卻朝著軍事強國的目標邁進.

劍橋有一家印度餐廳就叫做甘地,搞不好這一代的印度人會以為甘地是一名廚師.

我有時不免也會有一些很悲觀的念頭,似乎一切努力都不會有什麼用,只是留下一些故事,填塞少數人心中某個做夢的角落.

如此傷害台灣主權不愛台灣的賣台行為,那個整天喊愛台灣顧主權的爛黨怎麼不生氣? 不但不生氣,而且還力挺阿扁到底! 假設今天是馬英九貪污幾百億,而且還連篇謊言,並自稱是美國軍政府養的狗,你想這個綠色的爛黨及一幫徒眾,會有什麼樣的反應?

陳真

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扁要美指示馬英九放人 美：不是控告是請願

更新日期:2009/10/10 10:35 美國軍事上訴法院今天表示，陳水扁沒有「控告」美國政府，而是向美國政府「陳情請願」，請求美國訴法院下令馬英九總統撤銷對他的無期徒刑判決，並且立即釋放他。(劉芳報導)

位在華府的美國軍事上訴法院於星期二宣布，對陳水扁所提的案子沒有管轄權，所以不予受理。陳水扁到底告美國什麼呢？軍事上訴法院今天表示，陳水扁沒有「控告」，而是向美國「尋求救濟（request relief）」。陳水扁在陳情書中說，他是美國軍政府的代理人，八年總統任內，他其實是美國軍政府在台灣的行政長官，始終服從美國軍政府的旨意，在許多事上接受美國在台協會主席的指示。

陳水扁說，在台灣，美國軍政府是最高權力機構，他就是這個最高權力機構的代理人。唯有危急時刻，他才會證實軍政府的存在，而現在正是關鍵時刻，所以他要求美國軍政府出面干預，保護他。

陳水扁說，他不談台灣的主權，只要求軍事法院責成軍政府做到下列幾件事。第一，承認他的代理人身份；第二，承認他的所作所為都根據這個代理人身份；第三，指示現任的行政長官馬英九撤銷對他的無期徒刑判決，並還他自由。

美國軍事上訴法院表示，國家元首自貶身價，變成占領區的行政長官，法院從來沒看過這種事。

中廣記者劉芳美國華盛頓報導

我跟卡斯楚的想法比較接近,如下. 與其說這是頒給歐巴馬,不如說是頒給這樣一種反對聲音,反對美國長久以來歷任各屆總統特別是布希政權的對外血腥種族滅絕政策.

但在正面肯定之餘,我還想指出一個負面問題,那就是諾貝爾獎長久以來總是頒給權勢人物. 不管此人是否真的良善,這樣一種頒法,基本上都是基於一種功利主義式的(utilitarian)道德觀,簡單說就是不看動機,不管本質,不顧外在範疇,不鳥內在價值,而純粹由所謂良善結果及其數量來定義所謂良善與和平.

但這樣一種論斤稱兩加減乘除的道德觀,在我看來是十分有害的.比方說一個人處心積慮幹了許多令人髮指的罪行,但他或許因為其權大勢大而 "順便" 幹了幾件不費吹力便能辦到的所謂好事,如此加減乘除之後,他竟然得獎了,成為人類的良心了,比方說季辛吉便是.

對此我覺得只能以媽咧個逼來形容,這就好像把文學獎根暢銷程度來頒發一樣不恰當. 和平獎如果旨在表彰良心或和平等這樣一種基本價值,那就應該以衡量價值(value)而非衡量價格(price)的方式來衡量之. 而功利主義的衡量方式固然有其優點,但弊遠大於利. 這不但意味著一般缺乏權勢者不具行使道德的資格,更重要的是,這樣一種功利主義觀,傷害了我們對於道德與良知的深刻理解.

陳真
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Fidel Castro lauds Nobel prize for Obama
Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:19am EDT

(Reuters) - Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro lauded the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to U.S. President Barack Obama, saying on Saturday it was "a positive measure" that was more a criticism of past U.S. policies than a recognition of Obama's accomplishments.
Castro said the prize made up for the blow Obama suffered last week when the International Olympic Committee awarded the 2016 Summer Games to Rio de Janeiro after Obama had flown to Copenhagen to pitch for Chicago, his adoptive hometown.

The Nobel Committee announced on Friday that Obama had won the peace price for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."

The decision prompted surprise in many quarters and anger from Obama's conservative foes in the United States.

But Castro, who has generally written positively about Obama, was pleased at the decision by the committee.

"I don't always share the positions of that institution but I'm obligated to recognize that in this instance it was, in my judgment, a positive measure," Castro wrote in a column published in state-run media.

"Many will say that he still hasn't earned the right to receive such distinction. We prefer to see in the decision, more than a prize for the president of the United States, a criticism of the genocidal policies that not a few presidents of that country have followed."

Such policies, Castro said, had "brought the world to the crossroads where it finds itself; an exhortation for peace and the search for solutions to assure the survival of the species."

The Nobel prize made up for "the reverse Obama suffered in Copenhagen ... which provoked angry attacks by his adversaries of the extreme right," Castro wrote.

His comments were part of a long piece entitled "The Bell Tolls for the Dollar" in which he said the U.S. dollar was losing its position as the preeminent world currency.

Also, he criticized the United States, as he often does, for not doing more to cut emission of greenhouse gases said to be causing global warming.

Castro, 83, ran Cuba for 49 years after taking power in a 1959 revolution but stepped down last year and was replaced as president by his younger brother Raul Castro.

The elder Castro has been seen only in occasional photos and videos since having surgery for an undisclosed intestinal ailment in July 2006. But he still has a behind-the-scenes role in government and keeps a high profile through his writings.

(Reporting by Jeff Franks; Editing by John O'Callaghan)

半島新聞 2009 10. 10.

Obama: I do not deserve Nobel prize

The Nobel committee said Obama had reached out to the world in a bid to end nuclear arms stocks [EPA]

Barack Obama, the US president, has said he is "surprised and deeply humbled" after being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009, less than a year after taking office.

Speaking in Washington, Obama said he did "not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who have been honoured by this prize".

The Nobel Committee in Oslo, the Norwegian capital, said that the award recognised Obama's attempts to foster international peace and create a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama will give his $1.4m reward for winning the Nobel Peace Prize to charity, the AFP news agency reported a US official as saying.

No decision has yet been taken on exactly which organisations will benefit, the official said.

'Mutual respect'

South Africa's Archbishop Desmond Tutu, awarded the prize himself in 1984, hailed the award as "a magnificent endorsement for the first African-American president in history".

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But world reaction to the decision has been mixed, with the Taliban in Afghanistan saying it was absurd to give the prize to Obama when he had ordered 21,000 extra troops to Afghanistan this year.

In his speech from the White House, Obama said: "Let me be clear, I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations.

"We cannot tolerate a world in which nuclear weapons spread to more nations and in which the terror of a nuclear holocaust endangers more people.

"We must pursue a new beginning among people of different faiths and races and religions, one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect."

The president said he would accept the award as a "call to action" for all nations to confront the common challenges of the 21st century.

"And we must all do our part to resolve those conflicts that have caused so much pain and hardship over so many years," he said.

Taliban criticism

The Taliban condemned the decision saying that Obama has "not taken a single step towards peace in Afghanistan".

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However, Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president, congratulated Obama, calling the announcement "appropriate".

An aide to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, said the award should prompt Obama to begin to end injustice in the world.

"We hope that this gives him the incentive to walk in the path of bringing justice to the world order," Ali Akbar Javanfekr, Ahmadinejad's media aide, said.

"We are not upset and we hope that by receiving this prize he will start taking practical steps to remove injustice in the world.

Yukio Hatoyama, the Japanese president, and Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, both said the prize should encourage everyone to help Obama rid the world of nuclear weapons.

"I think the peace prize was given with such a hope," Hatoyama told reporters on a visit to Beijing.

Merkel said Obama had shifted the tone towards dialogue in a very short time.

"There is still much left to do, but a window of possibility has been opened," she said in Leipzig.

'Extraordinary efforts'

Obama, 48, wins the award while still being the commander-in-chief of US-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Nobel nominees
US President Obama was one of more than 200 individuals nominated for the 2009 Nobel peace prize. The decision to award Obama the prize was a surprise to those who thought that one of these four candidates would win:

Morgan Tsvangirai - the prime minister in Zimbabwe's power-sharing government. As opposition leader, he was imprisoned and severely beaten. But he struck a power-sharing deal with his rival, President Robert Mugabe

Piedad Cordoba - a politician and
hostage negotiator in Colombia, she mediated between the government and the rebel group FARC, and was herself
kidnapped in 1998

Hu Jia - currently in jail in China, on charges of subverting state power. After months of house arrest, he was sentenced just before the Beijing Olympic Games for his constant criticism of human rights abuses

Sima Samar - an advocate of women's rights in male-dominated Afghanistan, she was a senior minister in President Hamid Karzai's first government and is now head of the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," Thorbjoern Jagland, the head of the Nobel committee, said.

"His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.

"Obama has, as president, created a new climate in international politics.

"Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play."

The only US presidents to have won the award while in office are Theodore Roosevelt in 1906 and Woodrow Wilson in 1919.

Roosevelt was awarded the prize for his contribution to the negotiations that led to the Treaty of Portsmouth which ended the Russo-Japanese War in 1905.

Wilson received the award for his part in founding the League of Nations.

Alfred Nobel, the inventor of dynamite, provided in his will for the establishment of the Nobel prizes in 1895.

The possible detrimental use of dynamite is believed to have influenced Nobel in leaving a better legacy after his death.

The Nobel Committee said that Obama had made "extraordinary efforts in international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples".

講這些跟學長當然無關了,我也不知道為什麼會講到這邊來,或許有些事情表面上好像不相干,但其實概念上環環相扣.

有時跟一些女性同事走在一起,一走出室外,我都根本沒去注意到太陽的存在,同事們卻幾乎個個都馬上會拿出雨傘,我說,"沒下雨啊,幹嘛撐傘?",她們説: "先生,這個叫做陽傘,不是雨傘."

我敢說,她們從來都不曾有一秒鐘的時間忘記跟太陽保持勢不兩立的戰鬥狀態. 有時甚至是陰天,根本沒有陽光,她們照樣繼續保持戰鬥位置,照樣撐傘. 她們說: "先生,你不知道沒有陽光的紫外線也會曬黑嗎?"

與太陽勢不兩立的戰鬥,恐怕活多久就會戰鬥多久,絲毫不放鬆. 我常因此心裏有個很深的惆悵: 如果這樣一種與邪惡毫不妥協宛如唐吉訶德般的浪漫騎士精神,能夠撥出千萬分之一用在是非問題上或利他事務上,這個世界早已煥然一新,哪來什麼美帝? 哪來暴民暴政整天檢查他人黨國思想是否純正? 我們根本不再需要天堂,因為天堂早已在人間實現.

大家不妨捫心自問,先不要說行動,光是 "想到" 就好,一年之中,你有幾秒鐘的時間 "想到" 他人的痛苦? "想到" 那些邪惡醜陋的人事物對眾人對萬物所造成的禍患與傷害?

有時去巴勒網後台,看到一些我很討厭的混蛋,十幾年來或甚至更久,就像水蛭一樣,緊緊跟著我,我總覺得一種難以言喻的厭惡感及不可思議.

我真不知道這些混蛋(幾乎全是愛台灣那一型的黨國生物),像水蛭一般吸附汲取著這些跟他們一點都不相稱的文字幹嘛? 很難理解怎麼會有這麼一種空洞蒼白的生存方式.

不管是懷著惡意也好,懷著好奇之心也罷,這樣一種吸附,實在很沒有意義. 好奇那麼多年也該夠了吧?

至於惡意,探敵虛實,這倒是可以了解. 問題是,不管你的敵人是誰,要打擊他,就應該好好用功,好好努力.

比方說,伊拉克淪陷真相二十多頁,我雖只花了五個晚上寫成,但從1992年我就開始閱讀伊拉克及海珊和美國雙方勾結狼狽為奸搞生化武器以毒氣殺害庫德族人或伊朗人等各種英文文獻及人權報告,至今已超過 16 年.

總之,有敵人很好,但不管文戲或武戲,你應該切切實實拿出一點說理論析或抗爭的真本事來,而不是永遠只是像個蛆一樣,儘只會幹些抹黑醜化冒名造謠等等歪歪曲曲陰陰暗暗很沒出息的事; 許多時候讓人感覺真是蠢到爆,蠢到好像連最簡單的句子與表達都看不懂似的.

既然知道怎麼上網,當然不可能蠢到這種地步. 那不是真的蠢,那只是窩囊沒出息. 也就是說,他不是真的蠢到聽不懂半點人話,更不是想要跟你討論什麼想法或觀念,他只是想要傷害你這個人,彷彿只要讓你消音或把你給鬥臭了,他所屬的一方旗幟(過去是藍旗,這十幾年來換成綠色旗了),便彷彿就能大獲全勝似的.

這十足就是台式選舉的翻版,簡單說,他不是真的要跟你講道理,他只是要把你用各種歪歪曲曲陰陰暗暗的方式給鬥臭,或鬥得你不堪其擾,彷彿他便能獲勝.

一個人如果還想保有一點做為一個人應有的格調,那麼,在他改變世界之前,其實最該做的就是改變自己,至少讓自己有別於這樣一種窩窩囊囊陰陰暗暗的華人文化或台灣文化.

西方社會縱有萬般不是,但在 "做為一個人" 這一點上至少是沒有問題的,我很難想像到處會有這樣一種西方人: 只因為對方不支持你的黨你的政治明星或反對你的某種主張或想法,然後就會像蛆一樣傾巢而出,用各種陰暗歪曲的手段去傷害對方.

西方人很少有這麼沒出息的,也很少這麼低能. 西方人彼此想法不同不太會構成一種緊張關係;西方人想法不同,只會藉由論事析理的本事來競爭,看誰擁有更多的理性來決定是非對錯,而不會動用理性之外的任何手段,更不可能動用台灣社會或華人社會所盛行不衰的各種不可思議的卑鄙手段去傷害人.

我不了解中國,難以論斷,但道理是一樣的,從來沒有一種社會能夠純粹藉著船堅炮利或大量財富來 "崛起",這樣的崛起是崛起個什麼碗糕呢?

北島說得很對,中國物質興盛了,但人文精神卻持續淪喪. 很難想像這樣一種物質興盛究竟在人類文明上能具有什麼樣輝煌的意義? 終究我們還是得回到一個一個 "人" 身上,回到無數的 1, 回到無數的原點,回到生命的開端,意義的起源.

我們不該有這樣一種心態: 希望別人去拯救世界而我來坐享其成,反正死是死道友,不是死貧道.

世界其實不可能改變,除非我們先改變自己.

忘了聽誰說的了,好像是 william james吧,大約是這麼說: 希望別人去打拼,最好是能多多犧牲奉獻(就好像有些波蘭醫學生的家長 "鼓勵" 我繼續跟那些生物對抗一樣,為什麼是 "我" 呢? 拯救世界是 "我" 的責任嗎?) 這樣一種心態叫做 "正常". 而那些坐而言不如起而行的志士或者說笨蛋們,則謂之 "異常".

但人類文明進展的關鍵,恰恰就在於從前者變成後者,從正常變成異常;從很會打算盤到不知計算自己的利害得失.

這樣一種轉變,恐怕需要千百年或更長的時間,但沒有走上這一步,人類便很難往前演化,而只會趨於毀滅,註定在不斷重覆的歷史和痛苦中起伏而終究毀滅. 世上如果有什麼事是確定的,那麼這件事就是了.

曾聽過一場有關生物演化的演講,舉證兩種人類曾存在地球上,一種孔武有力,技巧高,很會求生存,一種軟弱無力,而且不切實際愛玩愛做夢,但後者卻存活了下來,有人說那是因為後者並不光只會計較利害得失,反倒很浪漫,而正是這樣一種不夠自私不夠務實的生存態度給生命帶來演化的空間與希望.

就算不談師徒,只講朋友,待友之道理應是這樣: 設身處地成全你的朋友,就像成全你的家人一般.

如果你不會願意自己的家人遭受某種痛苦,那你就同樣也應該不願意看到朋友承受那樣的痛苦. 就好像學姐經常阻止我罵綠營或批評醫界主流一樣,因為他們知道這種勢力這類生物不能惹.

但卻有很多所謂讀者或朋友,很喜歡看熱鬧,看到我被人批鬥抹黑時特別爽,很刺激. 可是,假如今天我是他們的親人呢? 他們還會感到刺激感到爽而跑去圍觀看熱鬧嗎?

77歲再關20年意思就是關到死.

陳真

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法波兩國轉軚捨棄波蘭斯基

(星島日報)2009-10-03

擁有法國和波蘭國籍的奧斯卡金像導演波蘭斯基（Roman Polanski）三十一年前涉嫌在美國強姦未成年少女，上周在瑞士被捕及可能被引渡到美國受審，一度觸發波蘭及法國官員不滿，但事態逆轉，法國和波蘭政府已不再支持他。

法國政府人發言人沙泰爾改口說，波蘭斯基應面對司法制裁，不能凌駕法律。波蘭總理圖什克亦指示部下對此事保持克制。

美國當局將要求法院判處波蘭斯基入獄十八至二十年。洛杉磯縣地方檢察官庫尼說，追捕波蘭斯基並非要逼害他，而是要跟進他在一九七八年涉嫌犯下的罪案。

加州州長阿諾舒華辛力加也說，金像導演不能凌駕法律，在法律面前，波蘭斯基該像其他人一樣受到相同對待。

瑞士當局上周六在蘇黎世機場拘捕七十六歲的波蘭斯基，稱是應美國發出的國際通緝令拘捕他，並準備把他引渡往美國受審。波蘭斯基當時正擬出席瑞士一個電影節。

波蘭及法國方面對波蘭斯基被捕一度不滿，波蘭前總統瓦文薩指波蘭斯基是「偉人」，要求赦免他，法國外交部長庫什內則對其被捕感到遺憾；兩國官員還曾致函美國國務卿希拉莉(相關)，要求美方放人。

洛杉磯警察局長布拉頓在接受當地電台訪問透露，美方將要求判波蘭斯基至少18至20年監。